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Perche' due numeri .

Felice Giornata a tutti gli Abarth , guardando l'archivio ho notato la 750 con numero ''308272' che ha un numero di telaio impresso sulla parete parafuoco , come di norma , piu' un numero stampigliato anche in basso a sinistra , vicino a una targhetta in alluminio.

Cordiali Saluti Vito Sciacca

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primebaker

5일 전

Bonjourno...como es va? Any chance you could translate to English?? I doubt many folks on the abarth750forum speak Italian. Grazi....Giovanni

iicar

4일 전

Replying to

2023: (Discussing chassis 308272 and images seen on the 750GT website)

From “Sciacca” (query presented in Italian)

Why two numbers?

Good Day to all the Abarth (enthusiasts). Looking at the archive I noticed the 750 with number ''308272' which has a chassis number stamped on the firewall, as usual, plus a number stamped also at the bottom left, near an aluminum plate.

Best regards Vito Sciacca

primebaker

Bonjourno...como es va? Any chance you could translate to English?? I doubt many folks on the abarth750forum speak Italian. Grazi....Giovanni

(John de Boer here: Speaking for myself, the original query was received in Italian and I am not the only one to respond in Italian, even though I am located in California and Italian is not my native language. Now, I have translated the interchange using Google Translate … and then made my own corrections and observations/interpretations to that literal translation. I hope this helps.)

Feb 03

(deBoer / The Italian Car Registry)… responding to the initial query:

I haven't studied this strange case yet. The Fiat 600 with chassis number 100*308272 was initially prepared by Abarth in the form of an Abarth 750 with a Fiat sedan body. A ‘berlina 750”. The chassis number, being lower than 100*338600, should be (have been) stamped on the inner right fender panel ... to the right side of the engine and radiator as Mr. Egloff (owner of another early chassis number) has already suggested … quite correctly. But, since the 750 sedan with number "308272" was first delivered to the dealership of Remo Cattini (quite a famous Italian racer and dealer in the sixties), it seems possible that the car (or another?) was rebodied or even renumbered in this form ... (perhaps in-period or after?). We can think with (almost) certainty, that the numbers that are present now (on the left side) are not actual Fiat number stampings unless they were moved from the original location. I can easily see that the "ABARTH" ID plate does not have the appearance of an original ID plate. (Hence, it has no historical significance). Usually, a number moved (or officially re-stamped) in this manner in Italy should be confirmed officially with an assigned or verified “numero d’ufficio” (rather like an American DMV assigned VIN number), perhaps from a Motorization Office? It would be interesting to know something more!

Jun 01, 2023

I have reviewed the photos of 308272. I believe that the chassis number, in the original place

is gone (ruined) and therefore has been authorized to print it on the bottom left.

Greetings and have a nice day. Vito Sciacca

May 12, 2023

Hello. In my opinion, the number for this model (if correct) should be stamped on the right side near the radiator. See also my double bubble (chassis) 264681, Greetings and have a nice day.

May 12, 2023

Vito: Thanks for contacting us. I have reviewed the images and these are the best images we have. The images are from a colleague of ours in Europe who knows the owner of the car and it appears he has been identified correctly. That said, the chassis number printed on the bottom left of the engine is also not "usual" and we do not know why it is located there. I wish you a good day Mike

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